美国JRS之声浪出水平！美国球迷热议最靠谱干拔痴汉，库里一枝独秀科比感人PullUpJumpers[OC]联盟干拔跳投痴汉们纵轴：有效命中率横轴：每36分钟干拔出手次数10尺外至少运一次球的跳投“快拔，不要停”型干拔大师：戈登、科沃尔、泰瑞克埃文斯、麦康奈尔、奥古斯汀、雷迪克、伦纳德、尼尔、布雷德索、杜兰特、麦科勒姆、库里“你想拔就拔吧”型不坑爹干拔球员：保罗、甜瓜、哈登、利拉德、威少，等……“不要拔！快停下！那里不可以！”不认命型玄学干拔球员：波蒂斯、沃特森、肯扬马丁、韦德、沃尔、麦卡勒姆、格兰特、科比[–]San Diego ClippersFreeGums 286 指標 2 天前Kobe with no regard for advanced sabermetrics.科比任何高阶/高级的技术统计都没有任何怜悯和顾虑。[–]76ersdnzgn 143 指標 2 天前Kobe's last years are like parodies of Kobe's actual career.科比的最后一季的表现就像是他职业生涯的劣质模仿版。[–]WarriorsLeBronda_Rousey 107 指標 2 天前'Oh you think I'm inefficient? Oh I'll show you inefficient!'“哦，你觉得我效率低？好，我来告诉你什么叫真正的效率低！”[–]LakersBandwagonier 78 指標 2 天前TIL Gordon is almost as deadly on pull up jumpers as Curry， but maybe because he doesn't shoot them near as much.今天我才知道，埃里克-戈登的干拔跳投和库里一样都是超级准的，但是也可能是他出手并不是那么多吧[–]PelicansGood_NewsEveryone 28 指標 2 天前Weirdly in 14-15 when he had a far better year from 3， he had only an eFG% of 38， he just dominated on catch and shoot 奇怪的是在14-15赛季，他那年在三分线上的表现远比现在好，但是他的有效投篮命中率只有38%，他应该更擅长接球就投吧！[–]RocketsSuperawesomecoolman 19 指標 2 天前Him， Anderson， and Harden are going to be so sexy together.戈登，安德森，和哈登的组合应该会贼让人性奋！[–]RocketsThachiefs4lyf 9 指標 2 天前Also nene mentoring capella火蜜：而且我们还有内内教导卡佩拉。[–][CHI] P.J. BrownThonMaker_KDplusKG 64 指標 2 天前Lol Bobby gotta work on that. Still leads the league in backing guys into the paint from the 3 point line (per 36) though公牛蜜：哈哈哈，鲍比（波蒂斯）真的得好好练练他的投篮技术了。但是他在每36分钟内的从三分线背打到禁区次数领先全联盟。[–]Trail Blazersmm825 17 指標 2 天前CJ is deadly pulling up after a pick near the three point line， can fade in a bunch of different directions.CJ麦科勒姆在三分线附近挡拆后的干拔跳投是致命的，他能向各种方向后仰投篮CJ McCollum跳投集锦：http://weibo.com/p/230444b3231de33fbbfa90b6fc50dc1830c6e6[–]Celticsmcb25 62 指標 2 天前Is it just me or is the yellow 'safe zone' too big? If you're shooting below 35 eFG% on any shot you take semi-regularly you should probably cut back.Also just noticed Curry at the top... Holy shit是不是只有我一个人这么认为呢，这个黄色部分的“安全区”是不是太大了？如果你的有效投篮命中率低于35%，那就应该减少那些半常规的投篮了。并且刚刚注意到库里排在最顶端，卧了个槽。。[–]Tron_Maker 31 指標 2 天前Yeah I was looking all over the chart for Curry and couldnt find him at first.Then I was like 'oh....'是啊我也一直想在这个表里找到库里的名字，但是一开始没找到。后来我在顶端看到了之后。。“喔。。。”[–][SAS] Kyle AndersonManuGinosebleed[S] 9 指標 2 天前I think what factors a little into that is the difficulty of the shot. You can see that more often than not， it's probably not a good idea to shoot pull ups off the dribble (and we were taught this at a very young age). I'm sure a lot of these field goals are a result of the flow of the offense and what it's allowing them to even do. It doesn't excuse guys like Kobe who are clearly shooting these shots frivolously， but sometimes it's the only play you can go to when the shot clock is dwindling.我认为这里涉及到的一个因素应该是投篮的难度。你能经常看到，运球后干拔跳投通常不是个很好的主意（从小我们就被灌输了这种思想）。我很确信投出这些球往往是进攻的节奏比较快，所以允许他们去这么做。但是这不是像科比这类有无限开火权的球员投丢的借口，尽管有时候进攻时间快到的情况下只能尝试干拔跳投。[–][GSW] Ian Clarkoscarony 29 指標 2 天前I started thinking Steph was just one of the dots in the middle and then I saw him and started laughing.勇蜜：我一开始以为库里只是会出现在图标中间的一个小点点上呢，但是当我看到他的点的位置之后就开始“哈哈哈哈哈哈”[–]Knickshomogenized 7 指標 1 天前He doesnt even fit the category. Think about it， his pull up is so effortless that it's other guys' catch and shoot.When Beldsoe or Gordon or McCollum pull up， theres momentum， it seems off balance， and its what you expect a pull-up to be. But curry， for him thats just walking up to the line， and deciding to shoot.He dribbles himself into shots， and releases when he's got a little space. It's not even a pull up for him， even with momentum. He's worked on that core， post injury， so much that it's defining his career.Curry's pull up is in a category of it's own， and should be counted along his other shots， the catch and shoot， etc. Dude's re-defining his own stats and shit.He shoulda been a knick...WE WERE SO CLOSE DANTONI!!! Fucking warriors didnt even work him out :(尼蜜：他不适合出现在这个表里！想想吧，他的干拔跳投显得那么轻而易举，比别人接球投篮要轻松多。当布莱德索或者戈登或者麦科勒姆干拔投篮的时候，有一种动量看起来让他失去了平衡一样，这就是你脑海里干拔跳投的样子。但是对于库里来说，就是走到线上然后决定是否出手投篮。他运球到自己投篮的节奏上，然后只要有一丁点空间就可以出手。这对他来说都不算是干拔投篮，没有那么多动量。他在受伤后锻炼自己的核心力量，这也定义了他的职业生涯。库里的干拔应该归在他自己的目录下，然后和他的其他投篮，比如接球后投篮这样的进行对比。这家伙重新定义了自己的数据啊他本应该成为尼克斯的一员的。。。想想德安东尼教导下的库里！！该死的勇士队还没有完全发挥出他的能力呢[–][MIA] Justise WinslowTito_Our_Saviour 11 指標 2 天前This graph perfectly depicts Wade and Kobes similarities....and differences. Great stuff这张图完美的描绘出韦德和科比的相似处。。。以及不同之处。完美啊！[–]Warriorsfuryousferret 7 指標 2 天前FWIW， Steph had the 8th best all time efg%....the other 8 are centers.另外说一句，你要知道库里在联盟历史上有效投篮命中率的榜单上排名第八。。。其余几个人都是中锋[–][PHO] Jalen RoseBillMurrie 8 指標 2 天前Happy with Bledsoe's shot last year， hoping he stays healthy and takes another step forward. Pretty sure he led the league in drives to the rim per game last year， if his pull-up game stays consistent it's a certainty.日密：对于布莱德索去年的表现我很满意，希望他能保持健康，再上一层楼！我也很确信他去年场均突破上篮次数领跑全联盟，如果他的干拔跳投更加稳定就更好了。[–][NYK] Patrick EwingEmpirix 9 指標 2 天前I just realized that this graph is essentially grouping players into categories of pull-up assassins vs just stop while adjusting for their shooting volume. I think this can be a bit misleading on the margins and penalizes high volume guys， e.g. Griffin is just within the confidence interval but D Wade is considered bad even though Wade has a much higher FG% on pull-ups-or even Kobe for that matter--not saying they're not bad at it， I'm saying that Griffin and other data points around him should also be labelled the same way.我刚注意到这个图标的重点在于根据投篮的数量把球员们分成两类：“快拔快拔，不要停！”和“不要！别拔！那里不可以！”。我认为这可能会导致一些错误的理解，对于出手数多的球员来说不太公平。举个栗子，格里芬处于可靠区间内，但是韦德会被认为是个投篮糟糕的球员，尽管他的干拔投篮有着更高的命中率——科比也是如此——我不是说他们的投篮有多好，我的意思是格里芬的其他投篮数据也应该像这样列出来。[–][SAS] Kyle AndersonManuGinosebleed[S] 10 指標 2 天前yeah I always realize 1 mistake too late. The top curve should have been 'convexed' in the other direction， while the middle line should have become a tad more straightened. It shouldn't choke off near the 2.0 fga players like you said， because they don't have the volume.楼主：是的，我也意识到了一个错误，但是有些晚了。最顶端的曲线应该是向其他方向“凸出的”，中间的线条应该更加直一些。我也不应该把投篮出手两次做为图表的起点，就像你说的那样，但是他们的投篮数量并不是特别多。[–][GSW] Andre IgoudalazzMojaveExpress 5 指標 2 天前Portis wut r u doin波蒂斯，你还真他娘的是个人才[–]Timberwolvesjustchillyo 5 指標 2 天前Where is Rubio?狼蜜：我家卢比奥在哪里？[–][TOR] DeMar DeRozan18thLetter 12 指標 2 天前Where is DeRozan? Nice post!猛龙蜜：我家德罗赞在哪里？赞楼主一个先[–][SAS] Kyle AndersonManuGinosebleed[S] 13 指標 2 天前that dot to the left of 'Rose'.楼主：罗斯那个点的左边就是我们的公众号：ChinaReddit，还处于成长之中~，微博：虎扑美国JRS之声~希望得到您更多的改善建议和支持！